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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:30 pm 
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Am I the only one who loves these little guys?
As much as I love my Black Beauties, these are very very nice phasmids.
Am I the only one thinking they are very underrated?

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:11 pm 
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In all honesty, I actually prefer them to P. schultei :).

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:23 pm 
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Out of interest, which name is the current one, please?

I seem to have "invert of the day" the moment and these are my favourite inverts today :laugh:

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:41 pm 
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Pseudophasma subapterum is the correct name for this species now :)

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:13 pm 
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Yea , They great giving them privet at the moment what other foods do people feed the young.

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They're a stunning species.. I love the little row of spots they have, and the coloured wings (anyone else reckon they look like frog eyes in the right light?)

I did offer some hazel once which was taken, but I'm not sure if it was them or the peruphasma as I keep them together...

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:18 pm 
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I've only ever given them privet as that's the only "safe" plant around this way (the only thing I know hasn't been squirted with chemicals).

They do look like frog eyes... If you squint and tilt your head just so.... :wink:

Do we now know for a fact they won't cross-breed with P. schultei?

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 10:59 pm 
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Do we now know for a fact they won't cross-breed with P. schultei?


I've not had any problems - I have a pretty decent adult population of both in one tank and they seem to pair off appropriately (in fact sometimes I find them in species specific little clusters). I'd guess it may be a potential issue if you had only males from one species with females from the other..

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:34 pm 
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I don't like their nymphs much...
Opened the tubs and one little guy was across the bathroom floor quicker than a Ferrarri Bug...

My adults are doing... umm... well.
I'm having to start a new incubator tub (all labeled with dates.... Sometimes I get way too organised...). Think I may stop hatching them soon though, cute as they are.

I love their "twiggy" look rather than the BBs looking like black insects on privet (does that make sense? Sorry, I have man flu).

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Just checked my culture of these and noticed three of the nymphs are noticeably more reddish brown in body colour :o So has anyone had this with theirs?
Must be a recessive so would it be worth a go at separating them out and seeing if I can breed true with them?
I'll put up a photo later of them :)

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Here's a couple of photos of the reddish ones alongside the darker brown ones :)




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Yep, I keep these too. Great little species.
Be interesting to see how those nymphs mature. Can't say I've noticed any like that among mine this year.


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I have read quite a bit about the red P. subapterum. apparently it's a natural colour phase of this species.

Although I cant say that I have heard of red and darker ones from the same batch of ova.

Scroll to the bottom of the page to see adults:

http://www.phasma.eu/rechts/kweeklijst2/Neophasma_subabterum.htm

And a topic on our own forum:

http://www.bugnation.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=200&t=32354


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Thanks for the info and photo Westley nice to see how the adult will look :thumb:
I'm going to separate them from the main group when they get to sub adult then see how it goes it looks like there's two female and one male nymph at the mo but well I'll keep looking and see if I get any more popping up 8)

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The "red" form crop up fairly regularly (well, I used to get a percetage each generation). Whether or not it's wise to try and line breed them and further reduce the gene pool I'm not sure, but of course it is up to the individual :).

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Ooh ok, think I will have a go Marky as I've got sooo many of them now (the "normal" coloured ones). I'm getting overrun a bit so every time I clean and change the food they run every ware and I find escapees in odd places for a few days after :roll:
Actually thinking of giving away half of the nymphs or disposing of most of the ova to reduce numbers :( any takers for an instant culture ? lol

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When I kept this species I never kept more than 50 eggs for myself for exactly the reason that you're experiencing now! :lol: I don't want any btw :)

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Yep ha, so now I know how prolific they are I'll keep on top of the numbers :wink:
Luckily I have managed to give a few away and a sold/exchanged some too so numbers are getting more manageable lol.

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