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 Post subject: Re: Foodplants
PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 7:18 am 
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aha katydids it is then :lol:

just hope someone bring some along to bugfest !

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 Post subject: Re: Foodplants
PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 7:20 am 
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dno if im just weird but if i see a non native plant in the garden i simply dont rest until i find something that eats it then get some :lmao:


waste of foliage otherwise :whistle:

and a good excuse to get some weird stuff

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lol.no not weird!and your in good company on this forum anyway!!on friday i was with my stepdad driving to see his son and i was doing his head in pointing out all the eucalyptus trees! we passed one of his friends houses who happens to have a massive eucy and i nearly made him crash the car yelling at him to stop ! im hopfully gonna sort something out with her to get a regular supply-maybe do a bit of gardening in return for some!! well happy :kp:


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 Post subject: Re: Foodplants
PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:50 pm 
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Hi,
I know I'm new around here but I'm just developing my phasmid collection. It seems easy enough if you're feeding bramble but I'm becoming aware that variety can be good and that some species of phasmid prefer other foodplants.

Finding food for the bugs could be a problem in winter if bramble doesn't suit them as not too many plants stay evergreen.

As a gardener, and one who is intending to start a small commercial retail nursery, what plants would be useful to cultivate? Other than bramble and eucalyptus are there any recommended foodplants which are evergreen (or at least winter hardy - heated greenhouse isn't always an option)? Is it a case of try them on everything and see what they will and won't eat? For instance my Carausius morosus seem picky and won't eat ivy or privet, only bramble.

If I started my garden centre would there be any interest from phasmid keepers for potted foodplants to grow on at home? Please bear in mind that was not the intent of this post - just a thought.

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 Post subject: Re: Foodplants
PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 4:25 pm 
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anyone know anything that feeds on buddlea (some idiot threw loads of it into the woods and as kids we stuck the tall stems into the ground as dens and of course the whole lot rooted now theres whole trees of the stuff)


I found that my P.Shultei enjoyed this. Also known as The Butterfly plant - gets loads of Red Admirals and Peacocks in the summer. Beautiful.

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 Post subject: Re: Foodplants
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Hi all,

I'm not sure if this is a good deal but, if your in the UK groupon have a deal on atm for 2 eucalyptus gunnii trees for £30 for anyone that grows their own stick food :) hopefully might help someone!


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 9:01 am 
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Stunning trees i have 3 best not get more :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Foodplants
PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 10:15 pm 
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My Peruphasma shultei feed on Syringa vulgaris(lilac), Lonicera caerulea and Olea europaea.


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 Post subject: Re: Foodplants
PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2014 8:01 am 
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Although my contribution is entirely theoretical (from reading), some other additional plants:

- Prunus sp. (plums, cherries, peaches, apricots)
- Callistemon sp. (Bottle Brush). This is very common in southern Africa
- Laurus nobilis (Bay Laurel)
- Lonicera sp. (Honeysuckle)
- Certain Ficus sp.

Maybe it would be a useful idea to update the first post in the thread to include all the additional comments so newbies like myself can quickly read everything in the first post instead of having the read individual posts.

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 Post subject: Re: Foodplants
PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2014 8:40 am 
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I have been feeding some of my indigenous phasmids Acacia tortilis leaves for the past few months, but because I keep them in a mesh explorarium, the thorns of the Acacia have given me many problems, both with hurting my hands and also getting stuck in the mesh etc. I dont mind smaller thorns, but 5cm recurved thorns become an issue.

So I have been out on a quest to find another, less problematic tree to get them going. I have tried multiple leaves, but they often just give it a taste before losing interest, but last night I had an Eureka! moment.

I drove past the park and saw a tree very similar to Acacia, but with short, maybe 5mm long, straight thorns. I cut a branch, washed it thoroughly and placed it in the cage. Within minutes, all 5 the phasmids in the cages was all over it and feeding like they've never done.

And the miracle plant? The highly invasive (here at least) Prosopis glandulosa, Honey Mesquite. Very easy to get in and out of the enclosure and with more fleshy leaves than the Acacia. I am super chuffed.

So anyone from the southern US reading this, give it a go!

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 Post subject: Re: Foodplants
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Very interesting Westley. Should certainly be useful for people who also find the throns on acacia a nuisance.

As far as I know, keeping Phasmids is illegal in the US unless you have a permit for studying them or something (normal people cannot get the permits, I think) due the risk of them being invasive species over there (some being parthenogenetic and plant eaters and all) so I doubt there would be anybody keeping phasmids from America here on these forums.

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 Post subject: Re: Foodplants
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Thanx for the info Richard, that is quite sad to hear.

South Africa is also currently revising the invasive species list and ALL species of phasmids will also be banned.....wonder how they plan on enforcing that.

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Tonight I tried my ET's on wild orchids and they went mad for it!


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 Post subject: Re: Foodplants
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Today I bought a nice sized Loquat plant, also of the Rosaceae family.

They are fairly common in southern Africa, so I will report my finding in a few weeks.

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My privet eaters love Plantain (the weed). Both the narrow and broad-leaved varieties of it.


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Hi, I'm new to the forum and keeping stickies ( 3 weeks ) but thought you all might like to hear what plant I found through a google search for my Indians!

I did a search for insect PESTS in the farming community in India! I found 1 major section of the farming community in India that are having big problems wih Indian sticks (I guess they just call them stick insects over there) eating ALL their seedlings!

AVOCADOS! I happened to have a couple of 2 foot plants I started last year, in my kitchen! So, thought I would bung one in the habitat and see what happens! I have not seen them eating in daylight before, it's amazing! They are eating way more than they ever had with bramble or privet! And everyone knows how easy it is to grow an avocado plant, right?

Well, I'm off down the supermarket to get some more seeds and yummy flesh!

Prawn cocktails are great aren't they :wink: ?

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 Post subject: Re: Foodplants
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Interesting, thanks for sharing!

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 Post subject: Re: Foodplants
PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:03 am 
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Hmmm, strange observation on my side; I have a few P. schultei nymphs (L1) and wanted to raise them on their natural foodplant, Schinus sp, but I always provide a variety of foodplants, especially for nymphs who are not quite sure what they want.

So I placed a lot of Schinus leaves together with some Olea europaea, and strangely, they COMPLETELY ignored the easily edible Schinus (thin, fragile leaves) and went for the one Olea twig instead, which has tougher leaves and I didnt even cut the edges.

I am not too bothered as bot leaves are easily accessible, but just an interesting observation.

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We would like to add the following foodplants to the foodplants list: cherry laurel and nerium

links to some of our reports:

Prunus laurocerasus (cherry laurel or laurel)
http://www.phasmatodea.com/web/guest/fo ... age/671450
Possible foodplants Central- & South-American (Pseudophasma) species
http://www.phasmatodea.com/web/guest/fo ... age/677703
Possible foodplants PSG105/PSG164/PSG224 Parapachymorpha species
http://www.phasmatodea.com/web/guest/fo ... age/677104
Possible foodplants PSG160 Trachythorax maculicollis
http://www.phasmatodea.com/web/guest/fo ... age/680505

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I think wandering jew Tradescantia zebrina is a food plant but i haven't tried it.


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FraMA wrote:
I think wandering jew Tradescantia zebrina is a food plant but i haven't tried it.


I've seen one 'untruthful' seller on eBay advertising them as a Phasmid foodplant but I have never heard of anybody using them before and neither does "Tradescantia zebrina Phasmid" yield any results on google.

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Does anyone know if p. Schultei eats Gaultheria shallon?


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Sungaya inexpectata "lowland" eats Tradescantia zebrina.


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Carausius morosus eats Tradescantia zebrina.


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i was wondering if you could culture bramble indoors for winter? seeing how you use the leaves and not the berries pollination is not a problem, but if the leaves grow well is a question?

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