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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:11 am 
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My baby giant millipedes are at 18degrees. I've just put the heat mat on. Is 18 too low for them during the day?
The heat mat thermostat is set to 20 degrees and the sensor is above the substrate, is that right and is it safe to keep it on all the time?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:43 am 
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I'd say no, because the millipedes will dig down, getting closer to the heat source which will be far too hot because the sensor is on top of the substrate. I would personally completely bin the heatmat but others use them fine so I'll let them further advise on that front.

Mine are at room temp, which ranges from 17-22*c at home and are fine. My better half has his at approx 24*c in his heated bugshed.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:08 pm 
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I'd say no, because the millipedes will dig down, getting closer to the heat source which will be far too hot because the sensor is on top of the substrate. I would personally completely bin the heatmat but others use them fine so I'll let them further advise on that front.

Mine are at room temp, which ranges from 17-22*c at home and are fine. My better half has his at approx 24*c in his heated bugshed.


Thanks, are you saying that the sensor should be in the substrate? The heat mat is to the side so they can get away from it. It gets bitterly cold in this house, I work from home and I'm currently wrapped up in a blanket with a hot water bottle on my lap and it's not even November yet :-)

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:48 pm 
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Ahh I see, I assumed you meant it was under the substrate. I think a heatmat on the side of anything is as much use as a chocolate teapot, but that's my own personal thoughts, and I loathe them under substrate too so on the side is probably the lesser of two evils and if you find it works then all gravy :D

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:52 pm 
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MissCat wrote:
Ahh I see, I assumed you meant it was under the substrate. I think a heatmat on the side of anything is as much use as a chocolate teapot, but that's my own personal thoughts, and I loathe them under substrate too so on the side is probably the lesser of two evils and if you find it works then all gravy :D


Why the loathing? (great word! I might have it as my word of the week :-) )

Is it generally quite warm where you keep them anyway?

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Keep in mind that the substrate will continuously release heat as it rots. Try taking a temp reading in the substrate itself. You might be surprised at just how warm the substrate really is.


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good thinking, it is 20 degrees with the thermometer right in the substrate next to the heat mat and 15 on the other side away from the heat mat.

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Try checking the substrate temp after turning the heat mat off. Turn the mat off and check temp in about an hour.


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Hypoponera wrote:
Try checking the substrate temp after turning the heat mat off. Turn the mat off and check temp in about an hour.


will do, thank you so much!

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I put layers of bubblewrap in the lid of my tanks, works great. If anything, the temp inside the soil is slightly higher than the room temp. I guess this is because it holds the heat better and the room varies. No extra heating is needed in my case. 21c.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:00 pm 
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The heat mat has been off for a few hours now and the temp is 18 on the heat mat side, 15 on the other side and 15 in the room - I've got 3 thermometers :-)

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*runs off to check millipede tank temps* :D

This was written a while ago so have you kept the heat mat off?


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It's January now and there was a bit of snow last night. I've got the heat mat (to the side of the tank) on a thermostat that cuts off at 20 and the sensor above the substrate. The heat mat side of the tank reads 18 on the thermometer, that is buried in the substrate. The other side of the tank is 14. I check the millipedes every couple of months and I find some on the warm side, some right next to the heat mat and some on the cooler side. Interesting that it hasn't changed much in temp over the last few months. I haven't got a thermometer in the room at the moment but I am wearing 2 jumpers, a scarf and carrying a hot water bottle around :-)

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:o You need to go visit people with heating on!!! :lol: I work outside and get knocked out everytime I come home - my other half is always cranking the heating up to about 23!! I don't moan as he pays for it and the insects/mantids/millis/aph/cats are all very happy. I'm always knocking it down - only the dog appreciates that :lol:

The room temp where milli's are ranges from 17 to 20 degrees in my house (always colder upstairs) so no doubt the temp inside will always be slightly higher. I also have a heat mat sandwiched inbetween the plastic tubs in winter.

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Thanks Louise, I have central heating and it's too hot when it's on but instantly cold again when you turn it off :-) I've also got a wood burner which I do put on if I know I'm going to be in the front room (where the bugs are) so it's not as bad as it sounds :-)

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During the winter, the difference in temperatures between the top and bottom shelf can be extreme, especially in a heated basement.


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